Friday, March 30, 2012

What do we do now???

We will be visiting early October and did not have a lot of choice of accomodation in the park due to the time of year and had decided to stay at the Old Faithful Inn.On the first day we were going to do the upper loop road but have now seen that the road from Madison to Norris closes August 17th!!



We are coming from Devils Tower and were going to enter and leave the park by the South Entrance.



Would we be better coming in on a different route?



Please let me have your ideas



thanks



What do we do now???


From Devils Tower the best entrances are East and North East. It doesn%26#39;t appear that you can change lodging, so you will have a bit of a drive to see the upper loop. You may want to stay in Gardiner for one night to visit the upper loop, which will not be a loop, but still beautiful.





Don%26#39;t stress and enjoy your trip. You are coming at a wonderful time of year.



What do we do now???


Good advice from Casa on this.



Staying in Gardiner for a night might work well for you. Otherwise, you%26#39;ll be doubling back to get to and from OFI. However, it%26#39;s a nice drive through Hayden Valley and along the Lake. So it%26#39;s really your preference.



There%26#39;s no good or bad choices - Oct. is a beautiful time in the Park, and you%26#39;ll enjoy your stay no matter what you decide to do.




Hey,thanks for this.



On the back of the advice I have checked the mileage and from Devils Tower to Cooke City or the South Entrance is approx the same.



So I think we will stay a night in Sheridan and then head for the northeast entrance and stay the next night in Gardiner.That way we will be able to drive the Chief Joseph scenic byway as well.Should that route be clear at the beginning of October?




Actually if you want to enter YS Park from the South Entrance (near Tetons) it is much longer than to Cooke City, at least another hour or so. Did you mean the East Entrance (nearer to Cody WY)?





According to the NPS YS website ';October 13, 2009 —Roads close to the public at Tower Fall to Canyon Jct. and Long Lake via Beartooth Pass to the Montana Stateline. (GATES CLOSE AT 8 A.M.).';





Have fun.

Making the most of the busiest week of the year

Hello all,





As part of our great ';out west'; drive-a-palooza this year, we are going to be in YNP-GTNP in the first week of July, arriving the 1st into West Yellowstone and leaving the 6th for SLC. We will be coming from Grand Canyon/Zion/Bryce, so we%26#39;re excited about staying in ';one'; place for a while after some long days of driving in the desert!





Given the normal crowds and the fact that the 4th is a weekend this year (maybe that doesn%26#39;t make a difference, though???), I want to be smart about planning what we see in YNP.





How%26#39;s this sound for a rough plan? Family of four, with a %26#39;tween daughter and a wildlife-loving son.





July 1 - Arrive in W. Yellowstone late in day after 8-hour drive. Nap. ;) Go to pool. ;) Wander around town.





July 2 - Full day driving in YNP - Norris - Mammoth - Tower





July 3 - Full day driving in YNP - Canyon - Lamar





July 4 - Check out of W. Yellowstone. Driving south of Madison - Old Faithful (crazy because of the crowds on the actual holiday?), and exit to the south to get to GTNP.





Check in to GTNP for several days of wonderful nothing. ;)







Does this seem reasonable? How bad really are the crowds on the 4th? I saw in the archives that someone said there were 25,000 people in GTNP last 4th. That%26#39;s hard for me to gauge in actual terms. Are we talking traffic jams at every junction in YNP?





Thanks!



Making the most of the busiest week of the year


There will be crowds so plan on getting up as early as you can. I would modify your schedule just a bit to get to the wildlife viewing areas first thing in the morning. Take along a cooler with snacks, picnic supplies and drinks. Lots of picnic areas around.





July 2 Lower Loop. Head straight to Canyon and to Hayden Valley for early morning wildlife viewing. Then back to Canyon to see the falls and canyon. Then to Lake area and loop back around to see Old Faithful late afternoon. Maybe have dinner nearby and watch sunset. Back to West YS.



July 3 Upper Loop - Get up early and drive to Lamar Valley first. Early morning is best. Then make your way back to Mammoth and West YS.



July 4 You have this day to visit the geyser basins around Old Faithful and move on if it is too crowded. Stop at Lewis Lake on the way to Tetons..



Making the most of the busiest week of the year


Some Inside Pages and websites to provide more ideas.





Binoculars are very useful, the more the better to share.





For wildlife viewing and photography:



tripadvisor.com/Travel-g60999-c96653/Yellows…





Packing for your trip:





tripadvisor.com/Travel-g28973-c100586/Wyomin…





Two very worthwhile museums to visit as time permits:





Cody, WY www.bbhc.org/home/index.cfm…





North of Jackson



http://www.wildlifeart.org/




The biggest crowds will not be at junctions but at the major geyser areas and their parking lots, so consider being there late afternoon, for example, eating, then seeing either Lamar or Hayden Valley in the evenings.





You will also have ';bison jams';; go with the flow, don%26#39;t worry about it, beverages and food in the car make it easier. Food is for you, NOT for the animals. :)





I%26#39;ve been there many dates throughout the summer and never felt that July 4 was any different.





It can be quite hot during the day, consider hats and sun block. Quite cool to cold at night.





If you cannot live w/o a fourth day in the park, inquire at the reservation desks if anything available (or in W. Yellowstone), and sacrifice a day in GTNP.




Just a couple of different things to fit in while you are here. Your son might really like the Grizzly %26amp; Wolf Discovery Center and talking to the naturalists there (in West Yellowstone).





Ranger Adventure Hikes are half-day hikes into the back country with a ranger. I don%26#39;t think many people know about them, but the Lone Star Geyser and Fairy Falls tours are neat ones for families



nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/rangerhikes.htm





Depending on when you are leaving, West Yellowstone has a neat 4th of July celebration with a small parade, music in the park, and fireworks at night.




Thanks, everyone. Great tips, across the board!

Organized tours or roam by yourself?

We are just starting to plan for a June 2010 trip to Yellowstone. I am wondering if it is better to take an organized tour or just go to a few places on your own? If so - what tours are good.

Organized tours or roam by yourself?

I like an organized tour in big cities where I don%26#39;t know how to get to the attractions and don%26#39;t want to watch traffic while I try to find my way.

Yellowstone isn%26#39;t like a big city. There aren%26#39;t many turns where you could get real confused. I like to go my speed, stop where I want for as long or short as I think is right, not what a tour operator thinks fits the schedule. If I choose to watch Old Faithful blow twice or 3 times before I move on, it%26#39;s up to me.

Now for the other part. Yellowstone is big and you need some idea of what you want to see and where it fits into the schedule so you can do the activities that interest you and you don%26#39;t have to be hurrying everywhere. How many days do you have planned? Are you more interested in the geography, geology, topography, or the animals of the park. I really enjoyed the hike we did up Mt. Washburn, but it is a steep climb and you need to be in fairly good shape and not prone to altitude sickness to be able to enjoy it. Some people want to spend a lot of time looking at (for?) the wolves. I have them where I live and have seen them close up so I didn%26#39;t go looking for them. You might want to.

Here is an online map, just like the one they will give you at the entrance. This one is clickable to zoom into different areas so you can see what is there and how the roads fit into scheduling your itinerary.

nps.gov/PWR/customcf/apps/maps/showmap.cfm…

Organized tours or roam by yourself?

As long as you have a car, I think you can do just fine, or even better, exploring Yellowstone on your own. All of the major attractions are easy to find from the main road and you can go at your own pace.

Are you in Grayslake, IL? If so, we%26#39;re practically neighbors-I%26#39;m in Crystal Lake.

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  • YNP/GT trip pricing

    We are looking at a trip to YNC/GT next year (Late may or Early June)and have to travel on a limited budget.



    What can we expect in way of expenses for tours, etc - and what tours shouldn%26#39;t we miss?



    What about meals - what should we budget for daily meals for 2 people? Since we are flying in from Florida, cooler and bringing food is not an option for us - we will need to eat out or buy local for all meals.



    Lodging - are the less expensive Pioneer/Frontier options good? We don%26#39;t mind roughing it a little- but do need our own bath in the room!



    Your help is appreciated!!



    YNP/GT trip pricing


    I would visit the parks with your own car, that way you can stop when you want. You could pick up a cooler in Jackson to help save on food costs.





    How many days are you planning? Where are you flying into? Check rates in Billings MT, Bozeman MT as well as Jackson WY. There also are many free or cheap ranger guided hikes and talks.





    Visit www.nps.gov/yell and www.nps.gov/grte





    The cabins at Old Faithful, Canyon and Lake have private baths, many at Mammoth and Tower do not. To check out lodging visit www.travelyellowstone.com



    YNP/GT trip pricing


    We are planning 9 days total - flying into Salt Lake City (most likely) - and giving 1 day on each end for travel time with 6 full days in YNP/GT - is that too much time? How should we split our time in YNP to see it all without too much rush? We enjoy (short) hiking and picnicing, and will have a rental car to travel at our own pace.






    Agree with the advice to pick up a cooler-even if you give it away before you leave, you will save a lot of money if you can avoid eating out every time you are hungy. After lodging, food will be your biggest expense, so if you bring in drinks, snacks, and lunch fixings, even if its just PB%26amp;J or cold cuts, you%26#39;ll really save a lot of money. Also, if you find yourself near Gardiner or West Yellowstone, you can probably get a better meal at a better price in these towns than in the park. If you do eat in the park, head for the cafeterias rather than the full service restaurants. The food in these is adequate and much more affordable. Anyways, if you were going to budget for 3 meals a day for two people, eating in the cafeterias, I would say $60-$75 a day-someone please correct me if I%26#39;m way off?





    Six full days is in no way too long-a very nice amount of time IMO. We%26#39;ve always spent 5 nights in YNP and have usually spent 1 full day in the Tetons.





    The Pioneer/Frontier options are very good. That is what we are doing again this summer, each has its own bath, and to give you an idea, this is what we are paying for this summer:



    Mammoth: $123 before tax for 4 people



    Canyon: $80 (including tax)



    Lake Yellowstone: $145 before tax



    (Sorry, for some reason I don%26#39;t have the pre-tax rate for Canyon, but it is our cheapest stay).





    So, Canyon is by far the cheapest. We last stayed at Canyon 16 years ago and it was not nearly as nice as Lake-smaller and darker, but was still just fine. However, the location is great, and I think I read that they are redoing these cabins in the fall so I think they would be just fine. I%26#39;m also pretty sure you can book now for next summer-I would do it as soon as you have an idea of where you want to stay to have the most choice. You can always change. I booked our rooms for the very end of July/early August on January 2nd and had my choice of lodging except for Roosevelt and cabins at Old Faithful.





    I%26#39;m not sure about tours. Personally, I would skip them. You can do fine exploring on your own. The only organized activity we%26#39;ve done is the Roosevelt Cookout which was very fun but also very pricey. Furthermore, I don%26#39;t think you need to plan out what you%26#39;re going to see each day. We always head out each morning in one direction or the other, stop at whatever highlights we pass, stop when we see wildlife, find a picnic area when we get hungry, etc. If you wind up staying in more than one location, it would of course make sense to cover the area closest to where you are staying each day, but I%26#39;ve never understood the need to schedule Yellowstone. With 5 to 6 days you%26#39;ll have plenty of time to explore at your leisure.





    So besides food and lodging, your only other fixed expense will be the $25 7 day admission fee. Also, don%26#39;t forget gas-you can fill up in the park and it%26#39;s usually higher than outside the park. Other than that, you shouldn%26#39;t really have any expenses unless you want souveniers.




    Reality Check, if I may. The Pioneer and Frontier Cabins are very basic and, well, unfinished; not motel like. Some with sink in the bedroom, very small toilet/shower combination, but at least they are in your cabin. If you are like most, you%26#39;ll use the cabin for crashing at night, and spend most of your time seeing the many sights. So, expect the bed and bathroom, not much more. Unless you get a Western Cabin type accommodation. If you call Xanterra, the park%26#39;s concessionaire, they can guide you, as can the website.





    Official Lodging and Tour vendor for Yellowstone National Park (Call them frequently, cancellations occur.)





    http://www.travelyellowstone.com/





    With re: trip planning, don%26#39;t underestimate the park%26#39;s own website, which contains a lot of very good information and an interactive map.





    http://www.nps.gov/yell/





    A cheap Styrofoam type cooler, purchased in any grocery store, will enhance your trip, in two ways. One, as noted, it will reduce costs. Two, by having food and beverages available, you can either stay on the move or, importantly, stay at certain locations to observe the wildlife.





    Tours? Sure, you can, but you don%26#39;t need to. Once you review the map, you%26#39;ll see that the roads are, essentially, tour guides. Follow the roads, follow the signs, it works out. So, I agree with librarychick, relax, drive carefully, watch for the wildlife, enjoy walking the many boardwalks/walkways in the geyser areas.





    Bring binoculars, you won%26#39;t regret it.





    This Inside Page has more than you need, but the tips will prove useful.





    For wildlife viewing and photography:





    tripadvisor.com/Travel-g60999-c96653/Yellows…

    Cascade Canyon type hike in Yellowstone

    Due to time constraints we will not be able to do the Jenny Lake/Cascade Canyon hike before leaving Yellowstone. Both the areas are spectacular, but very different. Anyone know of a Yellowstone hike that is similar to the Cascade hike in regards to stark raw beauty of the rugged mountains lining the canyon trail.



    Thanks



    Cascade Canyon type hike in Yellowstone


    probably something around the canyon area. i haven%26#39;t done it yet but the heart lake hike in the west thumb area looks like it would be a nice one.



    Cascade Canyon type hike in Yellowstone


    I don%26#39;t think there are any hikes in Yellowstone that compare with Cascade Canyon. The Tetons and Yellowstone are two very different areas. The Teton are mountains that rise up directly from a flat valley while Yellowstone is the caldera of a volcano. Much different topography. In the Tetons you hike up a canyon surrounded by the mountains, in Yellowstone you hike up Mt. Washburn to see from the top of a mountain. Take a look at the view from the top of Mt. Washburn.





    nps.gov/archive/…index.htm




    We will be staying at the Canyon area and will doing the North and South Rim which should be very cool. Will take a look at the West Thumb area.


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  • May Trip

    My husband and I are visiting YSNP this weekend. We are planning to fly into Salt Lake City and drive.



    We are staying Thur %26amp; Fri night at the Old Faithful Inn. We are flying out of Billings on Sunday. It is a very short trip but this is a last minute getaway for us.





    We want to hike and see the wildlife.





    Here is what I have tentatively planned.





    Friday - drive early morning to the Canyon Area - Hayden Valley area. Mt. Washburn Hike.





    Saturday - head out early to view any wildlife. Watch the Old Faithful. Hike either Fairy Falls or Mystic Falls - depending on how tired we are from the previous hike !





    Leave for Billings in the late evening. We are staying in Billings to catch our Sunday morning flight.





    What to do guys think ? Am I being ambitious here ? Should I stay put in Old Faithful area for both days ?





    Let me know





    Thanks in advance.



    May Trip


    You never have enough time in Yellowstone to do it all, so don%26#39;t worry about what you don%26#39;t get in, just enjoy what you do.





    What you have planned sounds great and very feasible.



    May Trip


    Your plan sounds great for the time you have. I agree - do what you can and enjoy it!



    I definitely wouldn%26#39;t spend both days in the OF area - too much else to see, especially this time of year. I was there Mon. and the Lake was still partially frozen - something I%26#39;ve not ever seen before. Also, still lots of snow along the roads in parts of that area.



    The roads are all open, but I would check at the entrance or at a Ranger station on whether the Mt. Washburn trail is open yet. You may have to omit that. If so, you can check on the YNP site for other options.



    Have Fun!




    Thanks for your input. We are so looking forward to our visit.

    Teton Village in October/?snow

    My family is very excited about a planned visit in the fall-three generations in WY for a first visit. We are trying to avoid the crowds for this visit to be able to enjoy everything so we%26#39;re planning on late October. The Snake River Lodge is top on our list so far and we%26#39;re likely staying for 5 days. We%26#39;re fine just to sightsee the area including Jackson and GTNP and then maybe come back for a summer or winter trip for more activities.





    Our stupid question is about the likelihood of snow in late October. I%26#39;ve read that it is possible most months to have snow but we%26#39;re actually hoping and planning for at least a small amount while we%26#39;re there. Don%26#39;t laugh but our home is lucky to see any accumulation during a winter season. Thanks for any responses.



    Teton Village in October/?snow


    It is possible and likely that you will have some snow in October. The cool mornings and passing clouds lend to daily precipitation. As you have planned, October is an off peak time as well. Be sure to check restuarant hours as many will close in the ';off season'; early or not open at all. Either way, it will be a memorable trip.