Friday, March 30, 2012

Quality Inn 49'er or Inn at Jackson Hole Dilemma?

I posted this on the Teton Village forum...but this would fit over here as well.... :)

I%26#39;m in a quandry...I have reservations for mid-June at the Quality Inn in Jackson for 2 nights but have found a better deal at the Inn at Jackson Hole...would save about $70 over 2 nights. We are a family of 4 (kids 13 %26amp; 6) and are not sure which would be the better fit for us. We are not fond of super-crowded, touristy areas (which I%26#39;m assuming Jackson can be?) so thought maybe Teton Village might be better for us. But, is there any affordable food options out at Teton Village? We would have a free breakfast at the Quality Inn...so maybe the ';deal'; at the Inn at Jackson Hole wouldn%26#39;t be much of a deal? I%26#39;m guessing the scenery around the hotel is much prettier in Teton Village? If anyone can help me w/ some input I would appreciate it!! I%26#39;ve checked out the reviews of both hotels %26amp; both have pretty decent reviews w/ a few bad apples. I%26#39;m not expecting perfection, just looking for the best deal for our $$. TIA!!!

Quality Inn 49'er or Inn at Jackson Hole Dilemma?

i would stay in jackson but that%26#39;s just me. lots going on %26amp; your eating options are much better. there are a lot of neat shops in jackson around the square %26amp; your kids would get a kick out of the shootout. the rodeo is on wed %26amp; sat nights %26amp; well worth it.

teton village is very nice with a lot of lodging options. the mangy moose is a decent place to eat %26amp; probably the least expensive option. there are several places not too far away (nora%26#39;s fish camp) that are also good in the area.

Quality Inn 49'er or Inn at Jackson Hole Dilemma?

If you select ';Jackson Hotels';, upper left hand column, you%26#39;ll get reviews of some lodgings, perhaps the two you are looking at.

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  • Need advice about travel from Bozeman to Dinosaur NM in CO

    My husband, two sons (ages 2 and 7) and I will be staying in Bozeman, MT for a week through July 5. From there, we plan to travel south toward Colorado and into Dinosaur National Monument. We%26#39;re having a hard time mapping a route that is somewhat direct, but also scenic.





    Does anyone know how long the drive is from Bozeman to Jackson and if there are any opportunities for lodging south of Jackson without driving for more than 9 or 10 hours in one day? Do you think Jackson is an area we should take a break in before heading over to Dinosaur? I%26#39;m getting nervous looking at the map and realizing it%26#39;s pretty much a no man%26#39;s land between Jackson and Dinosaur, especially with a 2 year old in tow.





    We were contemplating driving west from Bozeman into Idaho and Utah, and then heading back to the east just to see something new, but it seems less scenic than driving straight down through Yellowstone and Jackson. We%26#39;ve been to both places already and don%26#39;t plan to stop for much %26#39;action%26#39; on this trip, but we want to make sure we%26#39;re headed in the right direction with hopes for %26#39;safe%26#39; lodging at the end of the long day on the road. HELP!!!



    Need advice about travel from Bozeman to Dinosaur NM in CO


    If I were you, I%26#39;d just head south on 191. Bozeman to Jackson is about 4 hours depending on wildlife and traffic. Although it may look like there isn%26#39;t much south of Jackson, it is scenic and you will be through farming country, with small towns along the way. This is my favorite way to get to Jackson. You could easily overnight in Green River or Rock Springs, Wyo., but Kemmerer, Wyo. would be another stopping place. I would suggest you not stop in Evanston - expensive (it%26#39;s in the middle of the energy boom). I know nothing about the road you would take into Dinosaur. Most of this will be good 2 lane state highways. The drive from Bozenman to Rock Springs or Green River would probably be 7 1/2 to 8 1/2 hours depending on how much time it takes to get through Yellowstone.

    Upcoming Trip Route Advice Needed

    We%26#39;re coming to Yellowstone in mid June, driving from Nebraska. We%26#39;re staying in Cody the night before we start our time in Yellowstone. We are staying two nights in the Yellowstone area, first night at Cooke City and second night in West Yellowstone. Leaving the park via the south entrance for Tetons/Jackson Hole.





    Should we come into the park via the east entrance or the northeast entrance? I%26#39;ve read great things about the Beartooth highway but not sure if coming in from Cody we will see that part of the highway?





    Also, if we do come in via the northeast entrance, we won%26#39;t see Yellowstone from the east entrance to Fishing Bridge. We have limited time, so we won%26#39;t be able to see it all, are we missing out on a any must sees if we don%26#39;t see this area?





    Thank you!!!



    Upcoming Trip Route Advice Needed


    To get to Cooke City from Cody you have two options:





    #1 Take Hwy 120 north out of Cody until you get to the Chief Josephy Scenic Highway. Turn left and drive until you reach Hwy 212 (Beartooth Scenic Hwy). Turn left (west) there and drive to Cooke City and the northeast entrance to Yellowstone. A side option is to turn right (east) to go over Beartooth Pass. Drive up the south swtichbacks and over the top to the Vista View Point on the Red Lodge side. Vista View has a rest area and a nice paved parking lot. It is an ideal place to turn around and go back towards Cooke City. There are also many dirt/gravel pullouts along the way where you can turn around if you don%26#39;t want to go all the way to Vista View Point.





    #2 Take HWY 16 west of Cody to the east entrance. To get to Cooke City and your 2nd night of lodging you will need to turn right (north) at the Fishing Bridge Junction. Go past Canyon junction, over Dunraven Pass and Tower. Turn right (east) at Tower/Roosevelt Junction and drive out the northeast entrance to Cooke City.





    Its hard to decide what to do when time is limited. What are your plans for driving from Cooke City to West Yellowstone? If you%26#39;re planning on coming down through Tower and Canyon then I%26#39;d said take option #1. If taking option #2 is the only way you%26#39;ll see Hayden Valley/Canyon/Dunraven Pass and Tower. In mid-June you will probably have a good chance of seeing a grizzly in the Dunraven Pass area. We always see black bears between the Roosevelt and Tower. Lots of bison in Lamar Valley and yesterday we saw 5 Big Horn Sheep just off the road about 1 mile east of the Tower/Roosevelt Junction.





    Whatever you choose will be fine. Both areas are spectacular and very scenic. Seeing Yellowstone Lake as you%26#39;re coming in from the east entrance is awesome. While I am partial to Beartooth Pass and would vote for that option both are a win-win option. If you choose going to Cooke City via Chief Joseph Hwy and would like some directions for some beautiful easy/moderate hiking areas right off the highway let me know and I%26#39;ll post them.



    Deb



    Upcoming Trip Route Advice Needed


    With limited time inside the park, I would consider not doing Beartooth Highway. You only have 2 days to see a huge national park.





    Day 1 Omaha to Cody WY is a huge drive. Close to 14 hours.



    Day 2 From Cody, enter YS via the east entrance. Visit the Lake area, then head north to Canyon area, Tower Falls and then to Cooke City for the night stopping at dusk in Lamar Valley to watch for wildlife.



    Day 3 The next morning get up early, see Lamar Valley in early morning, then head toward Mammoth, then to Old Faithful area for the rest of the day to see geysers etc. Stay in West YS.



    Day 4 Early morning along the Madison River to Old Faithful area to finish up any places you did not have time to see the day before. Drive south to Tetons.




    Thanks for the responses. Just as clarification, we%26#39;re not driving from Omaha to Cody our first day. We%26#39;re driving from Omaha to Scottsbluff, then Scottsbluff to Sheridan and then Sheridan to Cody. We want to be able to take our time.





    I think we will be able to see all of the park, except the road from Fishing Bridge to the East Entrance unless we come in that way.





    If we would decide to see Beartooth Pass, how far is it from where we would get on 212 from Cody? I%26#39;ve read such wonderful things about the area, I am thinking we want to see it.





    Thanks again!!




    While I appreciate you wanting to take your time on the route, I%26#39;d suggest that you not stop for an overnight in Sheridan and instead push on to Cody and put that extra day into the Yellowstone Park area. There is so much to see and do within Yellowstone. Staying outside the park may be the only option but I%26#39;d really try hard to get lodging inside the park to minimize the driving time each day.

    Teton County Fair

    We will be in Jackson the same time as the Teton County Fair. Has anyone been before? Any views on it? Many thanks



    Teton County Fair


    County fairs are always fun and a piece of Americana. Most of the exhibitors are kids and teens with 4H, but many locals participate. You can see wonderful quilts, see rodeo, check out exotic roosters, watch a horse show and see pig wrestling!! Also carnival rides.





    According to the schedule Nitty Gritty Dirt Band is performing and this would be a fun concert. I saw them eons ago at the North Dakota State Fair! Check the website for the calendar. www.tetoncountyfair.com/fschedule-1.html





    Consider spending a few hours just to see what is there.

    Day Trip Report

    We made our first trip of the season into the Park today and it was fabulous!



    To start with, if you%26#39;re coming down from Bozeman on 191, pay attention to those wildlife signs! We saw a good sized herd of bison just off the side of the road a few miles outside of West Yellowstone.



    Coming into YNP from the West entrance, we passed the Bald Eagle nest - which seems to be abandoned - or at least isn%26#39;t being used now. We did see several large herds of bison along the river - lots of babies! There were also several small herds of elk - and lots of ducks, geese, etc.



    We stopped at Old Faithful, which we hadn%26#39;t done in awhile and saw that erupt - quite a sight, especially since it wasn%26#39;t too crowded today. We met our son and daughter-in-law there and gave our granddaughter back to them :-( They had been camping at Mammoth and said that they had seen a black bear, a grizzly, and lots of mountain goats in that area!



    We then drove from OFI to Fishing Bridge. There was still quite a bit of snow along the roadside all along that area - about 2 feet or so in most places. We also got to see the ice on the Lake, which Deb mentioned in her report. I had never seen that either - amazing this late in the ';Spring';!



    We all had a picnic lunch together before they headed back to Mammoth and we completed the southern loop -up to Canyon, over to Norris, and back out West Yellowstone to Ennis. Saw quite a few elk, and of course went past the bison again - except this time they were changing location, using the highway! It was fun to watch the babies running around and playing alongside the adults.



    All in all, a wonderful day. I%26#39;m already anxious to set a date for our next trip over!



    Hope all of you planning trips now have a great time when you get there!



    Day Trip Report


    Thanks, heypaula, you make it harder to wait for this years trip, just two weeks from now. Sorry you had to give back the granddaughter. :(

    Camping in June plus Bears?!?

    We will be visiting YNP the first week in June and have planned on camping for the first 3 nights at Bridge Bay campground. I%26#39;ve now recently read some posts on here saying that it can still be very cold that time of year and there may even still be snow on the ground? I was curious to see what people%26#39;s recommendations about camping would be this time of year. Also, I am terrified of bears and read a post recently that early June is a big time for bears? Should I be worried about camping? Any thoughts would be GREATLY appreciated! (I%26#39;m not kidding...I am fully convinced we will be attacked by a bear..aaaahhhh)

    Camping in June plus Bears?!?

    Any night in Yellowstone can be pretty cool. I%26#39;ve camped in early June at Bridge Bay and have seen snow on the ground there. I%26#39;ve also camped in mid-August and had temperatures below freezing.

    June is big for the bears because the winter snow is finally melted/melting and they have just come out of hibernation. The sows will have their cubs with them and they will be at lower elevation yet because there will still be too much snow in the higher elevations so your chances of seeing a bear would be better then than later in the year, but your chance of seeing a bear in the campground is pretty slim. People are not the favorite food and they don%26#39;t go around looking for people to eat. Attacks usually occur when they are surprised on a trail and then it is usually just a defense reaction. I%26#39;ve never worried about a bear attacking me in a tent.

    Camping in June plus Bears?!?

    Will it be cold, probably. Could there be snow, yes. I know some who have camped in Yellowstone in June and left early because it was so cold. But I have also known others who have toughed it out. How tolerant are you of the cold?

    As for the bears, yes there is a lot more activity in June since, like another stated, they have come out of hibernation and are looking for food. They usually will not atttack and chances are if they do, they feel threatened or you are to close to her babies. They are very protective over their cubs.

    I don%26#39;t mean to scare you but you are more likely to run into a bear while hiking than in a campground (this does not mean that you will).

    Consider the cold when you make your decision, don%26#39;t worry about the bears.


    I%26#39;ve tent-camped at Bridge Bay on a yearly basis for many, many years. The earliest I%26#39;ve tent camped there is mid June. I%26#39;ve had snow, rain, and very nice,warm days. Nights are always cool but with good sleeping bags,underpads, warm clothes and extra blankets we%26#39;ve never been cold.

    As far as bears- I%26#39;ve had black bears come through Bridge Bay while camping there (many years ago) and last year there was a mama grizzly and her babies near by. The rangers are very diligent about protecting the safety of the bears AND the safety tourists. It is their top priority. They do not want the bears to get used to people and eventually have to be relocated or sadly euthanized so they work hard on keeping them away from campgrounds. Last June they had some of the top loops at Bridge Bay closed off and the trail to Natural Bridge closed off due to bear activity.

    When you enter the park you will get a brochure outlining precautions to take for all wild animals. You%26#39;ll also get more precautions when you register for your camping spot. FOLLOW THEM! Do not put food in your tent and make sure all food and cooking supplies are either stored in your vehicle or in one of the metal bear boxes throughout the campground. I usually clean up and contain all food related items in my car within a 1/2 hour after eating.

    Usually wherever there is a bear along the road, there are rangers directing traffic and watching out for the welfare of everyone. I%26#39;ve been lucky enough to be the first person to come upon black bears but have never seen a grizzly without a huge ';bear jam'; along with rangers.

    You%26#39;ll have a great time. My grandson and I are going to try to do a day trip next weekend if the weather is nice here and then a camping trip sometime the 2nd week of June. I%26#39;m looking forward to both trips.

    Deb


    We%26#39;re planning a trip for mid-late June and will be camping at Madison. I%26#39;m very excited as it%26#39;s been years since were there in YNP last. It would be a highlight of the trip to be able to see a bear. The last time we were there, we worried more about the bison coming through the campground than bears.

    We too are expecting it to be cold, especially at night and first thing in the morning and will be packing accordingly. It%26#39;s all part of the camping experience as far as we%26#39;re concerned.


    Thank you so much to everyone for their input! We will plan on packing some extra items to be sure we are ready for all weather conditions, and I%26#39;ll try to loosen up about the bear situation (although I%26#39;m not sure this is completely possible haha)

    Can%26#39;t wait for our trip! 3 weeks and counting!


    We camped in Yellowstone last year on the first week of June. As long as you have a good sleeping bag, I would be more concerned about rain than cold. It rained a little on us which made for some difficult (but manageable) cooking/grilling conditions. Got cold at night but not that bad. Stayed at Mammoth campground most nights which I think is lower elevation (thus a little warmer). We did see a large black bear chasing down some elk only a hundred yards from our tent as we were setting up. That was a little nerve racking. But we heard later that he got his elk and was near-by enjoying his feast, and to just steer clear of that area. But other than that we only saw a couple other bears in the park over the whole week.


    hami0152, if you don%26#39;t mind ';grisly'; humor, I%26#39;d change your screen name before you go tent camping. :)


    Hami - First, do not worry about the bears. Just practice common sense things like NOT having any kind of food in your tent. Don%26#39;t cook sardines or fish with the clothes you plan to sleep in either, lol. I have been tent camping in Yellowstone for years and have never had a problem while enacting these precautions.

    Secondly. I recommend a GOOD sleeping bag for April, May, 1st half of June, late August, September, October and November. For that you might have to spend a bit of cash, but it will last you a long time. I would not go any higher than a 20 degree down bag to ensure your comfort. There are nice synthetics out there, but most do not have accurate temp ratings. For example, if you buy a 20 degree synthetic bag for $100, chances are it%26#39;s really a 40 degree bag in terms of comfort and you wont find out until your trip, which is not FUN (trust me, I know). Splurge on a 20 degree down bag. REI has them for around $150. Dick%26#39;s sporting goods has nice down bags by Marmot for $130. Another key thing is do NOT use a bow up sleeping pad under 40 degrees, which can happen at night in June. Use a closed cell type of mat (foam roll up kind, $5-10 at any store). If you do not have a sleeping mat, you will be colder because your back side compresses the down, causing it to lose it%26#39;s loft. A sleeping mat is essential. You could use blankets as well if you don%26#39;t want to buy a roll up mat.

    I wouldn%26#39;t worry about bears at Bridge Bay at all. It%26#39;s a huge campground:

    parkcamper.com/Yellowstone-National-Park/Yel…

    ....as you can see on that interactive campground map for Yellowstone.

    Some other tips - make sure you have a pair of long underwear($10), a knit warm hat, gloves, a warm jacket, two heavy pairs of socks and layers. It may be beautiful in the day, but it can get COLD in the mountains at night and first thing in the morn.

    Also, do yourself a favor and pick up a couple of the headlamp style flashlights for the trip. They let you free up your hands for camp chores like cooking! Very handy. You can also easily read in your tent at night.

    Sounds like an awesome trip.


    Wolverine...thanks so much for the great advice! I will definitely add your recommended items to our packing/things to buy list. Also, thanks for the advice about the sleeping bags...we are headed out this week to find some good ones.

    Thanks to everyone for the great tips. Our vacation is finally coming together after great advice on these forums. We can%26#39;t wait!


    I have camped many times in Yellowstone in early June. Had everything from days of sunshine to a foot of snow... Biggest recommendations; use a closed cell foam pad (the cheap $10-20 variety) not an inflatable mattress, I like to use a cot to get off the ground with the pad on top for insulation. Wear a ski type hat when you sleep (before you get cold). As for the bears... I don%26#39;t worry about the bears. (The only people in Yellowstone who have issues with bears seem to be people solo hiking in the backcountry.) But since paranoia can kill your enjoyment of the trip. if you are bear-phobic I would recommend camping at a less bear active area than Bridge Bay. Bridge Bay does not even open until early June because it is a bear area. The bears won%26#39;t bother you, but you are highly likely to see them at some point. In contrast Madison is not a big bear area. (When I was there last August the rangers said they had not even had a bear in the campground all season.)

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  • YSNP Trip - Mid-July

    We are planning a mid-July trip to YSNP for 3 days, with additional 1 or 2 days in Grand Teton (either in beginning or end of the trip). Today we called for lodging at YSNP %26amp; (luckily) got 4 nights in Canyon Lodge (7/16-7/19) Yay!!!! The only flight going into Jackson Hole (for us) lands there at 8 pm %26amp; return flight leaves at 8 am. SO we have to work around these timings. We are flexible on our fly in – fly out dates as we have not yet booked our flight. Once we figure out logistics, it will help us finalize the route we take. Therefore my questions below:





    1. On the day we land, do u think it is advisable to drive a bit into Grand Tetons at night and stay somewhere there, so we have a head start? Or should we just crash at JAC the night we land and start driving the next morning?





    2. What would be a good way to “see’’ Grand Teton? Is it enough to drive leisurely %26amp; take in the interesting sights as we’re driving through Grand Teton on our way to %26amp; from YSNP? Or do you recommend we spend 2 days/1 night exclusively for G Teton? If so,





    3. Given our flight times, does it make sense to cover G Teton in the beginning or the end of our trip, considering the lodging (7/16-7/19) we already booked in YSNP?





    4. Canyon Lodge seems like a central location to cover most of YSNP from what I see on the map %26amp; also from the forums on here. Also, I understand drives inside the park can get long. Staying in Canyon Lodge should we be able to manage it without feeling like we r living in the car, or do u think I should try to break our lodging in the park, by spending 2 nights elsewhere, to make it more convenient?





    Thanks in advance for any input…



    YSNP Trip - Mid-July


    Sounds like fun. I think you have great lodging for your visit. If you can get the first 2 nights at Old Faithful, that might be better, but may not be possible.





    Day 1 I would fly in 7/14. Spend the night in Jackson. No need to drive at night, too far, plus Tetons are beautiful in the morning!



    Day 2 Tetons all day. 7/15 See if you can get lodging at Jackson Lake Lodge or in Colter Bay. If not stay in Jackson



    Day 3 To Yellowstone 7/16



    Day 4 YS 7/17



    Day 5 YS 7/18



    Day 6 YS 7/19



    Day 7 YS to Jackson WY 7/20 Have a fun dinner, do some last minute shopping etc.



    Day 8 Depart



    YSNP Trip - Mid-July


    Hi Thanks for your suggestions, but sadly we dont have 8 days to spare - max we can do is 5 days. That%26#39;s why we%26#39;re trying to plan ahead of time, but at the same time trying not to pack too much each day, as we also like to relax %26amp; take it easy while on vacation...So here%26#39;s what we have so far...





    7/16: Land in JAC at night, crash in Jackson Hole





    7/17: Start driving through Tetons in the am (hopefully catch a short hike in G Teton), Check into Canyon Lodge (YSNP) by evening





    7/18: Explore Old Faithful area Geyser area





    7/19: Explore North area of YSNP (Valley etc) what else ??





    7/20: Check out of Canyon Lodge, Explore more YSNP or G Tetons (not sure what), Stay night somewhere near G Tetons or JAC





    7/21: Catch flight in early am





    I know there are a lot of blanks, which Im hoping to fill with suggestions from the forums..But its kind of hard to estimate the general direction and realistic driving distances...





    Also, Im reading about Beartooth highway, to or from YSNP, which direction seems feasible? How much time should we plan to really enjoy the drive?





    Does this above plan seem too short? We %26#39;MAY%26#39; be able to add an extra day before or after, as our air tickets are not yet booked. what do the experts think?




    I think you%26#39;ve got a decent plan for the time you have available.





    One thing, on your first day you plan to visit Old Faithful and that area. Before you do, drive down through Hayden Valley to Lake and back up to Canyon. You never know what you%26#39;ll find down that way. There%26#39;s more wildlife out early in the morning than later. You can spend the rest of the day doing geysers or whatever you want.





    Here%26#39;s a link to some sample itineraries we put together. They may not be what you want but will give you something to think about.





    www.alandsuejohnson.com/ynp_itineraries.htm





    The menu to the left also has a Grand Teton link that might have some information to help you get oriented down there.




    This sounds like a fun trip. You might be short changing your time in Grand Teton a bit, if you are seeing GTNP and driving to Canyon the same day. It can take 3 hours to get from Jackson to Canyon depending on traffic an wildlife. I would spend some time walking around Jenny Lake and Jackson Lake, maybe lunching at colter bay or jackson lake lodge (which has wonderful teton views).





    Just driving to Canyon you will pass by some wonderful YNP sites, and Hayden Valley. You can expect wildlife jams on your drive through the valley. Canyon is a great central location to see the park. We stayed there last summer, and it worked out well. The area doesn%26#39;t have the classic ';parkarcitecture'; that you will find in some of the other areas, but it does have lots of services. If you can spend the first night in the Old faithful area, it would be worth it.






    Given the choice between staying in Jackson hole on 14th night after landing and moving ahead on 15th to grand teaton or staying two nights (14th and 15th) in colter bay or jackson lake lodge, what would be your recommendation?





    How is the drive from Jackson hole airport to colter bay or jackson lake lodge? Can it done in the night as we land at 9:00 PM on 14th? It is safe?





    Thanks,